Synchronizing loop changes in different tracks

[gude2000]

I thought this would be a good section to ask this question (for future newbie reference...), as I think it is the way a begginner may want Mobius to behave ( or at least I do...). I have played with several combinations, but I am getting frustrated... and I'm sure someone has already invented this wheel.

How do I achieve the following (using focus lock, track groups, scripts, or a combination of all of the above)?

Call Loops ABCD, and tracks 1234. So, for example, the third loop on track 4 would be 4C (for naming convention).

I want to:
1. Record 4 sequential loops on track 1 (the LUILOOP buttons do this well): 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D.

2. After recording 1D, move to record-enabled 2A (same function as switching loops in track 1 would do). LUILOOP-type record/play/overdub/multiply would be nice for all loops in all tracks (BTW, I tried changing the LUILOOP code from track 1 to 2, but it didn't work...)

3. Move from 2A to record-enabled 2B and have 1A move to play 1B simultaneously, etc...

4. Have all corresponding loops in different tracks move up and down together (1A-2A-3A moves to 1B-2B-3B, then to 1C-2C-3C, etc..., with the current loop in record (if never recorded) or play (if previously recorded); enter all new "unrecorded" loops record-enabled.


Thanks for all your answers.

[Per Boysen]

Hi,

I sometimes play exactly as you describe and I prefer to make use of Focus Lock and preference settings that when I go Next Loop into an empty loop slot creates a new loop of one cycle's length in Overdub Mode and when I go Next TRack (where there is no loop) creates an empty loop but not in Overdub Mode.

So as you see, my method is sort of "manual" and I find that more useful because it works in different kind of situations. My setup is to keep all the Focus Lock Track controls binded to either the computer's F-keys or a row of eight MIDI buttons. That way you can select and deselect multiply tracks by simply sliding a finger along the button/key row. It's so fast you can sometimes move a hand to change Focus Lock grouping while playing one note (with the other hand).

My reason for not having auto created Next Track loops going into recording mode is important: if you do that the loop will be created out of sync, and that sounds horrible! So what I do is to kick Next Loop and then kick Overdub to start playing maybe on the second or third beat of the bar. Then I keep playing after the turn and layer the beginning of the loop as the last thing before kicking out of Overdub mode (or simply go silent) and maybe keep on with Multiply or kick Next Loop (SwitchQuant set to Cycle here).

[buzap]

Hi Jose

yeah, with "focus" it would work, I guess.

When I have time (maybe around christmas), I intend to extend the luiloop scripts to 8x8 (or for you Track1-8 x Loop A-H).

I'm working also on additional scripts based on the luiloop that work very similar to Ableton Live, i.e. movin 1A+2A+3A => 1B+2B+3B etc. (or for that matter 1A+2B => 1B+2F, if you wish).

I've already posted a basic script in the Yahoo groups files working with two tracks. Once Jeff implements so called "array variables" it will be easier to implement scripts like thes (at least for me).

Anyway, all the best for now!

Buzap

[Per Boysen]

Jose,

Here's the performance procedure, given you set up Mobius my way; NextLoop copies time and kicks into overdub mode if new slot is empty and NextTrack only copies time.


1) Record your 1A, 1B, 1C and 1D.

2) Go NextTrack. Since no loops yet are spinning there you will directly start at the 2A position.

3) Now when track 2 is selected, focus lock track one.

4) Kick in Overdub Mode.

5) Play your content for 2A.

6) Kick NextLoop.

7) Directly on the loop switch, play your content for 2B.

So, that's it! Just keep on until you have filled up all track's loop slots.

[buzap]

Hi Jose

besides the LUILOOP scripts, I have written some FOLLOW scripts that do something similar:
Whenever you switch a loop on the "master track", the "follow track" will follow.
Example (A=MasterTrack / B=FollowTrack / 1,2,3=Loops):
- A1 / B1
- A2 / B1 (switching to A2 first time: B1 keeps running)
- A2 / B3 (switching to B3 doesn't affect master track A)
- A1 => B1 (switching back to A1: TrackB automatically follows to B1)
- A2 => B3 (switching to A2: TrackB automatically follows to B3)
- A2 / B2
- A1 => B1 (just like before)
- A2 => B2 (switching to A2: remembers B2 and follows)

best regards
Buzap