FCB1010 Mapping/control - how do you configure yours?

[Mobizoid]

Originally Posted by glynndub

Hi Faldoe

My FCB1010 setup is Banks 1 to 8 correspond to Mobius tracks 1 to 8

Pedals 1-5 trigger Mobius track and select a Guitar-Rig preset
Pedals 6-10 trigger Mobius commands as set out in Banks below

Mobius Tracks are...
1 click track or vocals
2 Bass Guitar
3 Acoustic Guitar
4 Electric Guitar
5 TTS-1 VST Key Sounds
6 Z3ta VST Syth Sounds
7 MIDI drum Kit
8 Scratching on a crapy record player

FCB1010 Banks are...
Bank 01
1- Mobius Track 1 and Guitar-Rig Patch - Clean
2- Mobius Track 1 and Guitar-Rig Patch - Wha
3- Mobius Track 1 and Guitar-Rig Patch - Dub
4- Mobius Track 1 and Guitar-Rig Patch - Various
5- Mobius Track 1 and Guitar-Rig Patch - Various
6- Multi Pedal-1 Rec/Overdub/ Multiply/Reset
7- G-Pause
8- From The Top
9- Clear
10- Overdub-T1

Bank 02
1- Mobius Track 2 and Guitar-Rig Patch - Clean
2- Mobius Track 2 and Guitar-Rig Patch - Wha
3- Mobius Track 2 and Guitar-Rig Patch - Dub
4- Mobius Track 2 and Guitar-Rig Patch - Various
5- Mobius Track 2 and Guitar-Rig Patch - Various
6- Multi Pedal-2 Rec/Overdub/ Multiply/Reset
7- G-Pause
8- From The Top
9- Clear
10- Overdub-T2

And so on to Bank 8

Bank 09
Pedals 1-10 execute scripts to load a click track into Mobius track 1.
I use Mobius as a VSTi in Sonar Producer 8.5.3 so I pan "Click tracks" to my foldback only.
I'm not sure if any audio bleeds off stage or not, nobodies ever commented.


Bank 0o
Reserved for more advanced Chorus/Verse/Bridge arrangements.
That is if I get a answer to my post "Sync Problems" I posted earlyer today.

Notes...
Pedal 6. Is adapted from Liuloop script (Thanks Buzap)

Pedal 7. My script that starts all loops at beginning of cycle.
This lets me record a verse and then a chorus (in one cycle) so I can kick Pedal 6 at end of verse and return to start
avoiding the chorus. I find it helps to take the loopyness out of the loop

Pedal 10. A script (Thanks for helping Jeff), which overdubs on current Mobius track and turns off overdub on all other tracks.
(I need this because I'm so forgetful) Dough!!!
One day I hope to incorporate this feature inside the Multi Pedal script to free up Pedal 10 for whatever!

Hope this helps, and would like to see other FCB1010 users set-ups

Be Lucky In Life... Glynn

Very interesting setup Glynn. I would like to know how you get the FCB to select a Mobius track and control a Guitar Rig preset at the same time. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

[glynndub]

Ga’day Mobizoid

Did you read my Attachment in post 10 of this thread? It may answer your questions.
I don’t know how much you know or if you own a FCB1010 but here’s an overview for you.

Each patch in the FCB can generate and transmit "with one pedal press" 10 different MIDI messages.
5 Program Changes
2 Control Changes
2 EXP pedals A and B
1 NOTE
The MIDI channel, used for transmitting those 10 messages, can be set globally

The manual, in my opinion is “crap” thankfully there is other resources like…
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/fcb1010/
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Behringer_FCB1010_MIDI_Pedal
https://secure.mtnsys.com/faq-fcb/IdiotsGuide.htm


Hope this helps

[g.lolo3]

Hi,

I'm new Mobius user and I try to make it work in Sonar. Where can I find the "Sonar tutorial" please?

[glynndub]

Originally Posted by g.lolo3

Hi,

I'm new Mobius user and I try to make it work in Sonar. Where can I find the "Sonar tutorial" please?

My tut is over on the zone mobius site. but firstly let me ask you what version of sonar you are using? Sonar WILL NOT load mobius as a VSTi pre version 8.5 due to a crappy VSTi installer. Versions 8.5 and X1 are fine and mobius works like a charm.

[Mobizoid]

Mr. Glynndub. Thanks for your help on these forums
Now that I finally have time I am trying to program my FCB to do multiple midi messages. Is there anyway you could post an example sysx file of your FCB? I am using the FCB1010 editor software, but am having some problem setting things up. The manual doesn't really tell much.
Please and thanks.

[glynndub]

Originally Posted by Mobizoid

Mr. Glynndub. Thanks for your help on these forums
Now that I finally have time I am trying to program my FCB to do multiple midi messages. Is there anyway you could post an example sysx file of your FCB? I am using the FCB1010 editor software, but am having some problem setting things up. The manual doesn't really tell much.
Please and thanks.

G’day Mobizoid

In my opinion the FCB is a great unit but the manuals convoluted crap. Maybe something got lost in the English translation. The trick to controlling the FCB is in the global set-up; get that right and your half way there. I will explain my setup to you as best I can, so if I leave something out, ask me.

Load FCB1010 Editor and go to “Global Settings” TAB

Select what Midi Channel you want to use for PC 1to5, CC 1&2, Exp 1&2 and Note
Make sure “Direct Select” is unclicked

My Global MIDI CHANNEL Set Up Is…

Patch / Instrument / MIDI Channel
PC 1 / TTS-1 (Soft-Synth in Sonar) / CH 08
PC 2 / Mobius / CH 02
PC 3 / Guitar Rig / CH 03
PC 4 / SD-3 Kit/Percussion / CH 10
PC 5 / Key’s = Z3ta (Soft-Synth in Sonar) / CH 09
CC 1 / Not Used / CH 02
CC 2 / Not Used / CH 03
EXP A / Guitar Rig Out-Put Level / CH 03
EXP B / Guitar Rig FX’s Variant / CH 03
NOTE / Various Things, mainly Mobius Scripts/ CH 15
Switch 1 / Not Used / N/A
Switch 2 / Not Used / N/A

With this setup each patch in the FCB (routed through Sonar or any DAW) can do serval things, e.g. PC 2 can tell Mobius on MIDI ch.02 to go to a Mobius track and record while PC 3 MIDI ch.03 can tell Guitar Rig to go to a specific patch EXP A sets Guitar Rig Out-Put Level, EXP B adjust Guitar Rig FX’s Variant and PC 5 can tell Z3ta to select a Soft-Synth patch.

I just set the tracks in sonar so…
The track with Mobius to receive info on MIDI Ch-02
The track with Guitar Rig to receive info on MIDI Ch-03
And so on

Then I go to FCB1010 Editor “Spreadsheet View”
And tell it what I want it to do, if I want it to send a Mobius and Guitar Rig command then I write the applicable value in PC2 and PC3 then Mobius and Guitar Rig respond the same time.

Hope this makes sense and helps

[glynndub]

opps meant to include attachment

[Mobizoid]

Right on...thanks a bunch, this really helped. I was on the right track and was making program changes etc, in my daw with a series of work a rounds using Midi ox/Midi yoke, and dummy clips.
But now every thing is streamlined. No more work a rounds.
Finally after a hole lot of trial and error, I am getting a handle on my FCB. Now if I could just make a little more progress with Mobius. I need to take it to the next level.
Peace out for now.
P.S.
If you ever come to town I'll buy you a beer.

[glynndub]

Originally Posted by Mobizoid

P.S. If you ever come to town I'll buy you a beer.

A beer!
A beer!
I live in Australia!

A beer, wets the lips
A second beer, wets the tonsils
If I come to town, then we’ll hijack a tanker… then we can have a beer!

Glad to be of help my friend

[ToMax]

Hi, i was looking at your setup and it seems very powerful.
I'm a new user and i made red bold some of your set.
I'll appreciate if you can help me to understand better your set up.
May some question are very simple but for me use useful
I'm starting to program my FBC and any tips are welcome.
Thanks Tom


BANK 00: Mobius - basic looping.
1 Record
2 Overdub
3 Multiply
4 Sustain Substitute
5 Bass Dot What it means?
6 Wait Cycle Reverse Overdub
7 Undo Redo
8 Insert Multi Click 4 (only #1 working so far)
9 Previous Loop
10 Next Loop

BANK 01: Mobius - direct loop 1-5 select, Time Warp scripts.
1 Loop 1
2 Loop 2
3 Loop 3
4 Loop 4
5 Loop 5
6 Time Warp 1 (speed shifting sequence during overdub) Is a Script?
7 Time Warp 2 (other speed shifting sequence during overdub) Why a second? Which is the difference with the previous
8 Insert Multi Click 4 (only #1 working so far)
9 Multiply
10 Overdub

BANK 02: Mobius - Rate Straight “foot organ” affecting selected plus focus locked tracks.
1 Rate Shift 0
2 Rate Shift 1
3 Rate Shift 3
4 Rate Shift 4
5 Rate Shift 5
6 Rate Shift -5
7 Rate Shift -4
8 Rate Shift -3
9 Rate Shift -2
10 Global Mute

BANK 03: Mobius - Instant Loop Length manipulation, Chord Creation.
1 x2
2 x3
3 x4
4 Hit Chord: Minor
5 /2
6 /3
7 /4
8 Hit Chord: Major
9 GRetrigger
10 Hit Chord: Sus4
They are all script?



BANK 04: Mobius - basic looping, Record Four Tracks In One Swoop.
1 Record Four Tracks In One Swoop (and Rate Shift them differently)
2 Overdub
3 Multiply
4 Substitute
5 Rate Shift 0, volume compensated, Retrigger All
6 Rate Straight 0, volume 95, Retrigger All
7 Undo Redo
8 Insert Multi Click 4 (only #1 working so far)
9 Previous Loop
10 Next Loop

BANK 05: Mobius - Rate Shift “foot organ” affecting all four tracks, volume compensated.
1 Rate Shift 0
2 Rate Shift 1
3 Rate Shift 3
4 Rate Shift 4
5 Rate Shift 5
6 Rate Shift -5
7 Rate Shift -4
8 Rate Shift -3
9 Rate Shift -2
10 Global Mute

BANK 06: Mobius - Fade In Or Fade Out, Focus Lock direct track target.
1 Fade In Or Out Track 1
2 Fade In Or Out Track 2
3 Fade In Or Out Track 3
4 Fade In Or Out Track 4
5 Focus Lock Track 1
6 Focus Lock Track 2
7 Focus Lock Track 3
8 Focus Lock Track 4
9 Previous Track
10 Next Track

BANK 07: Mobius - basic looping, glitch.
1 Record
2 Overdub
3 Multiply
4 Subcycle Sequence
5 Retrig All, Rate Shift 0 is a script?
6 Start Point
7 Undo Redo
8 Shuffle This
9 CopyPan
10 Shuffle That

Wich difference between 8 and 10